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 Post subject: do crazy lists work?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:21 am 
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it is 40 models, 20 mens and all could be the Lt. sure they are junk linesmen however surely the amount of AROs it could return could work????

do crazy lists work in Infinity......I imagine the list below is why ITS requires specialists

Image NEOTERRAN CAPITALINE ARMY
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GROUP 1 ImageImageImage10 Image0 Image0

ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.

GROUP 2 ImageImageImage10 Image0 Image0

ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Fusil Combi + AUXBOT_1 / Pistola, Cuchillo. (14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico.
ImageAUXILIA Lieutenant Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
ImageAUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
ImageAUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_2 / Pistol, Knife. (20)
ImageAUXBOT_2 (Forward Observer) Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
ImageAUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_2 / Pistol, Knife. (20)
ImageAUXBOT_2 (Forward Observer) Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.

1 SWC | 292 Points

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 Post subject: Re: do crazy lists work?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:37 am 
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AoE weapons would destroy that list, and camo would be trading 4-6 guys for one. That is due to them being deployed together, also you run the risk of long range fire fights that they are most likely to lose. Though carefully selecting a target in ARO as well as in the reactive turn will result in auxbots just sitting there and doing nothing for the game.


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 Post subject: Re: do crazy lists work?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:43 am 
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The problem is, they're individually easy to be killed, and as your order pool decreases, the list performance will drop exponentially since you have less capability to handle non-standard stuff like Camo, TAG, direct/area templates, ODD, etc...


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 Post subject: Re: do crazy lists work?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:33 am 
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I think the idea of building extreme stuff can work, but it probably wants to be less one dimensional. There is an entertaining battle report online somewhere of ‘the avatar vs 17 keisotsu’ (the keisotsu won).

At 300 points I’d be a lot more concerned with something like Caledonians taking 180 points of normal stuff + two full groups of chain rifle volunteers. Or even worse at 250 points if they took 190 points of normal + 1 full group of chain rifles.


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 Post subject: Re: do crazy lists work?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:21 pm 
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at 300pts you can also easily fit 2 Jotum TAGS and enough Fusiliers to keep the orders up. Keep the fusiliers prone and out of LOS and have the Jotums fire grenades everywhere at ARM10


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 Post subject: Re: do crazy lists work?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:28 pm 
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It could work. I can think of ways I would look to pull it appart though.

I think if you build a list that one sided your testing your opponent more than yourself. If they can think of ways to deal with it/have the tools to deal with it then you lose, if they cant work it out you win.

It would also fail utterly at ITS missions.


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 Post subject: Re: do crazy lists work?
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:57 pm 
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if you replaced more of those standard auxilia for the forward observers, for long range ARO and objective grabbing fun, it might be a fun list :)

also, the jotums heavy grenade profile no longer exists! only the squalo has the HGL now...


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